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RobertC
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post

I haven't seen any displays offering the Intel 3D glasses for the 3D episode of Chuck on Feb 2nd, does anybody know where to get them in San Diego?
 

Rick Shaw
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post

From: http://nbcumv.com/release_detail.nbc/broadcasttelevision-200915113639-dreamworks monster.html

"Intel has produced over 125 million pairs of 3D glasses, which are being distributed by PepsiCo through the SoBe Lifewater brand. The glasses will be disseminated via 25,000 SoBe Lifewater retail displays in grocery, drug and other retail venues beginning in early January and will be FREE to consumers. Should a display’s supply of glasses run out, consumers can call 1-800-646-2904 in order to obtain a pair."
 

Micawber
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post

What type of 3D is this? I have the standard (previously) green-red lenses for internet 3D. Will this work?
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TAZ
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post

if they are that glasses that work with Intel's INTRU 3D, then yes
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Rick Shaw
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post

If I remember correctly, these glasses use horizontally and vertically polarized filters instead of the red/blue type.
 

holl_ands
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post

"3D via H&V Polarized Glasses" requires an HDTV or PC Display with
a special pixel polarizing layer....in stores NOW....Mostly for Gamers:
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/3d-dlp-hdtv-1262.shtml
http://hdguru.com/ces-2009-3d-hdtv-flat-panels-are-coming/345/

Until 3D HDTV's catch on, "Anaglyphic" Red/Cyan 3D is "state-of-the-art",
replacing the earlier Red/Green glasses:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_image
There is no need for 125 million H&V Polarized Glasses at this time....
So I'm pretty sure TV broadcasts will be Red/Cyan 3D....
PS: You can buy 3D glasses, including clip-on for prescription lens here:
http://www.rainbowsymphonystore.com/3dglasses.html

"Intel InTru 3D" is a new brand name for Intel's new 3D PRODUCTION
system, which will use the "3D via H&V Polarized Glasses" projection
system that has been in selected theaters for quite some time now:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2008/08/21/intel-and-dreamworks-unveil-intru-3d/1
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20080708corp.htm

Note that the Intru3D announcement was for the MARCH 2009 THEATER
release....which will be hyped in the Anaglyphic 3D broadcast programs....
The new 3D production systems are supposed to "fix" earlier evils:
http://www.3dmagic.com/articles/imax.html

FYI: There are a LARGE number of people with NORMAL vision who CAN NOT
make sense of the projected 3D images (my wife had to leave the theater):
http://www.vision3d.com/whycant.html
http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2008/12/3-d-its-so-unfair.html
http://www.danimation.com/blog/2008/09/19/stereo-3d-commentary/

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BTW: A couple weeks ago at this year's CES2009, I saw a greatly improved
3D prototype system that did NOT require ANY glasses...
Although 3D effect was significant, it was blurry and I wouldn't watch it
for any length of time---strictly for adverts:
www.imageevent.com/holl_ands/ces2009

(Message edited by holl_ands on January 21, 2009)
 

Rick Shaw
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post

holl_ands: I suggest you read

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/super-bowl-commercial-chuck-go-3d/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/ap_en_mo/film3d_promotion

They indicate the polarized glasses WILL be used for the upcoming TV stuff.
 

holl_ands
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post

In the second link, Katzenberg says TV broadcasts will use "Color Code 3D"
glasses...which are AMBER and BLUE with special spectral coatings:
http://www.colorcode3d.com/whatis/index.htm
http://www.colorcode3d.com/info/pages/what_is_cc3d.pdf
So although it's very similar to the earlier Anaglypic RED/CYAN technology,
ColorCode3D uses a slightly different color combination and emphasizes
one eye over the other.
[So should left eye dominant people switch the lenses????]
[Or watch via a mirror......ho, ho, ho....]

Here's the ColorCode3D Patent (FREE registration required):
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6687003.html
and the Anaglyph Patent:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4290675.html
Open the *.pdf files to see the full versions....

The first link says the glasses are not only colorized, but also polarized.
This is clearly incorrect. The Color Code 3D description says nothing
wrt polarization and says it works with ANY TV technology, which
of course cannot convey polarized information without a special
polarized pixel overlay.

Mystery solved....we hope....

(Message edited by holl_ands on January 22, 2009)
 

TAZ
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post

here's a link to a pic of what the color code 3D glasses look like (according to the poster)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15492612#post15492612
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Michael Scott
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post

You can see a gallery of ColorCode 3-D images here. They're not bad to look at without the glasses, though there are strange amber accents. Much better than red/blue anaglyphic images, though.
"Think of the cable company as a group of terrorist (sic)." -- hookbill
 

holl_ands
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post

On-line sources for Color Code 3D (and other) glasses:
http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/gla-cyb-3.html
http://www.berezin.com/3D/3dglasses.htm

Curious, JourneyToCenterofEarth L/R=Green/Magenta has eyes reversed
compared to Anaglyph L/R=Red/Cyan.
 

RM
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post

Who cares what the glasses are? What we seem to be overlooking is that NBC has picked one of it's dumbest shows ever to run a 3D test. Will the show actually be *THAT MUCH* better because it's in 3D?
 

Rick Shaw
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post

No program with Yvonne Strzechowki can be called dumb.

Yvonne Strzechowki in 3-D? Hmmm...
 

RobertC
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post

Back to my original question: has anyone seen a SoBe display with the 3D glasses in a grocery or retail store in San Diego county? I have not yet seen one at WalMart, Stater Bros, etc.
 

TAZ
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post

I haven't seen any at the Albertsons, Ralphs, or CVS I went to. Figured I'd just spend $3 ($6.62 with shipping) and buy some from that link that was posted. Since they are in CA there's a good chance I'll have them by the 1st
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Micawber
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post

I did the same. Could not find them in the stores.

Berezin will also take PayPal.

(Message edited by Micawber on January 24, 2009)
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Walter
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post

I remember the last time something like this was done, the glasses were available at 7-11 convenience stores.

So, people might want to check 7-11 and AM/PM stores.


(Message edited by Walter on January 24, 2009)
 

TAZ
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post

in addition to the ones I bought I also called the 800 number the same day to request some.
The ones I paid for (on top in pic) came 2 days later.
The free ones (on bottom in pic) just came today, 9 days after requesting them but still in time for Chuck (and the game).
After trying them both I'm glad I bought some! They fit better and have larger lenses
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97790606yo4.jpg


(Message edited by taz420 on January 30, 2009)
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post

Found them at Ralph's, 4S Ranch in Rancho Bernardo
(West on Camino Del Norte, off I15)

They are REALLY dark....you have to cut them out of the 4-pack...
 

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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post

if you have them you can visit http://www.kissmein3d.com/
and get some kisses while you're waiting :-)
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post

[ Found them at Ralph's, 4S Ranch in Rancho Bernardo ]
What section of the store was the 3D glasses display at and what does it look like?
 

holl_ands
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post

Just asked my wife...she asked for them at customer service desk!!!!

Maybe other stores are keeping them hidden....
 

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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post

A couple of South Bay Vons stores have been hiding them behind the customer service desk. You have to ask to get them and you are limited to 2 sheets of 4 paper glasses.
 

Frank Black
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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post

At my local Albertsons they kept them behind the counter at their customer service area. As of Sunday morning, they had lots of them left.
 

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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post

At my local Stater Brothers-Also kept in Customer Service-you have to ask for them.
 

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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post

Watched the Sobe 3D commercial...yup, it was 3D....yawwwnnnn

The AMBER left lens improved color rendering when viewing without
decoder glasses...the dark blue edges are less visible....
Surprisingly, the 3D effect was still there (although diminished)
when I reversed L and R colors.

As 3D image popped further out of the screen, it became a defocused
blob of malformed smudges....I could never watch an entire movie....
In this respect it was MUCH WORSE than earlier dual color 3D systems.

These stunts are NOT going to help sell the new generation of
3D capable HDTVs that use the higher quality polarized glasses
(or active switched lenses???) technology with much faster
refresh rates (thanks to 120/240 Hz).

However, BOTH technologies suffer from severe loss of brightness.
Other than the blurry Glasses-Free type technology demos
at CES, I have yet to see a 3D system that overcame this problem....
So for now, the Polarized Glasses type systems are for
Movie Theater and in very dark rooms if you have a new 3D HDTV....

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